Sunday, October 19, 2008

Powell, Missouri, and Your Thoughts


Although I'm sure Rush Limbaugh will chalk up Powell' s endorsement of Obama today as just a black guy supporting another black guy, I think his endorsement is one that has weight and clout. In particular, Powell's condemnation of the Ayers foolishness and the selection of Gov. Palin has to hurt the McCain camp. 

Ouch, babe.

Regardless, I'm intrigued by the chance of Obama winning the Show-Me State. You think he does it?

In addition, recent polls (click HERE) show the race evening in North Dakota and West Virginia. That's a surprise.

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

Wasn't General Powell one of those that helped "lie us into a war" and is therefore reviled by the Left?

The more poll results I see the more depressed I get. I think there is a combination of "Bradley effect" and general oversampling of self-identifying Democratic responses in most of the polls I see, but I think the magnitude of the bias is maybe 3 or 4 points overall and it seems that Obama is running a good 5 or so points ahead of McCain in most of the polls that matter like VA, OH, MO, NV, and FL.

It blows my mind that apparently people don't care that Obama is practically quoting Marx with his "spread the wealth" crap.

Also, I don't understand how many of my political opponents think about many of the seemingly important issues this cycle.

Stuff like the war in Iraq, abortion, global climate change, and alternative energy policies, I understand where you guys are coming from. I disagree with you, but I understand your reasoning.

But issues like how Obama's ties to truly radical people like Ayers and Wright are considered "irrelevant" and the absolute revulsion felt towards Gov. Palin I don't get at all.

Anyway, I don't believe that the Democratic party is evil like the rabit right-wingers out there seem to. (Although I wonder about a handful of the nutballs.) I think that they think they are doing what is best for their country. I think they are wrong, but I ascribe good intentions.

I hope I am wrong about how the next 4 years will go if Obama is elected with a Democrat-controlled house and 55-58 Democrat senate seats.

Anonymous said...

Of course having said all that, it is STILL a close race and if something crazy happens in the next two weeks it only takes a national shift of 3 points or so to make November 4th very interesting.

And I'm still voting for McCain.

Quintilian B. Nasty said...

On Meet the Press, Powell chalked up the "lies" to the intelligence he was given, which coheres will other arguments about how the administration "cooked the books" on WMDs and Saddam's erroneous connection to Al Qaeda. Powell can counter those claims that he was used as a "face man."

Powell's endorsement has clout with so-called independents (that means you, Kenson). In a sense, his endorsement is an implicit argument from authority (Powell) that Obama will be just fine on national security issues.

I agree with fellow Alabama grad, Joe Scarbrough from MSNBC, that the Obama campaign needs to step up its work in Florida and Ohio because the race will tighten soon.

People who served under Reagan were also at the same meeting with Ayers. Regardless, it would be interesting to be a member of the Ed. dept. at U of IL at Chicago since he works there. I find it very odd that Ayers, apparently, has never denounced his involvement with that group.

Has anyone else noticed that McCain didn't wear a flag lapel pin during the three debates? That unpatriotic, grouchy old man! [Really, I don't care; I just find it funny.]

I just don't buy Obama winning MO. If he does, it'll be part of a landslide.

Anonymous said...

.....how the administration "cooked the books" on WMDs and Saddam's erroneous connection to Al Qaeda.

I dispute your assertion that Saddam's connection to Al Qaeda is "erroneous".

I find it very odd that Ayers, apparently, has never denounced his involvement with that group.

Assuming you are talking about the Weather Underground he has been quoted saying "We didn't go far enough." He wasn't happy with just bombing the Pentagon and trying to bomb an Army base. This is what drives me crazy about Ayers-Obama ties. If he had said something along the lines of "I didn't realize the extent of his radicalization and denounce not only his tactics but his beliefs", then I may let it go at that. But his campaign's attitude seems to be, "What's the big deal? That was a long time ago." It is OK to advocate overthrowing the government though the ballot box. It is not OK to advocate it violently. Ever.

I just don't buy Obama winning MO. If he does, it'll be part of a landslide.

The only safe prediction about Missouri is that on election night there will be an 'emergency' court order to keep polls open late in the city of St. Louis (if I wanted to be really ugly, I'd say downtown and/or North St. Louis), Republicans will go on TV denouncing that order saying Dems are "trying to steal the election", and Democrats will go on TV saying Repubs are "trying to supress voters".

God, I hate being this cynical. The really sad part is that I think I'm not cynical enough.

Anonymous said...

Spread the wealth? If you make a lot of money, you should pay more in taxes. Period.

If you mean the absolute amount of dollars in taxes paid, then yes, that is self-evident.

Where I, and a lot of others, disagree is if you are rich then you should pay a greater percentage of your income than someone who is poor.

Whether or not Obama is a "socialist", it is a socialist thing to do to drastically raise tax rates for the highest income bracket while sending 'refund' checks to people who DON'T PAY ANY FEDERAL INCOME TAXES.

Socialist rhetoric like "spread the wealth" scares the crap out of me because it indicates a desire to reshape society using the tax code to gradually and gently punish the achievers while giving welfare to non-achievers.

The last century shows that capitalism works and socialism does not work.

Of course capitalism doesn't work perfectly since humans are involved but Churchill's quote about democracy jumps to mind when you compare it to other political-economic systems.

Once again, I truly hope I am wrong about what will happen with an Obama administration and a Democratic-controlled Congress.

Anonymous said...

I am going to have to side w/ many of Travolta’s stances here. I feel that neither politicians plan really add up, but what I do not like from Obama is the increase in corporate taxes. If that happens it will only be directly passed on to the consumer and restrict investment. As far as you, Mr. Q, I do agree w/ your assumption that Powell will help the Obama camp. Powell is respected by a lot of individuals both in and out of government…………But does Powell’s support tip the scale of military and/or Sect. of State’s in Obama’s favor? – I do not think so. When the Powell announcement was made, why did we not hear about more of the prominent military and ex-cabinet level folks that support McCain? Why…….A slanted media?

Also on Powell & the war issues – He was trying to be a team player on the biggest good old boy system ever. I would imagine there is a lot that he did not agree with, but went along looking into the future of political pay back time. I am sure to a certain extent Powell could feel that he should / could have been the 1st African Amer. Presidential Nominee. Now that he is “out” and the Republican ship is sinking – What does he have to loose to jump ships? Also the fact that he is of the same race may be a slight contributing factor as well – Regardless of how intellectual he is, this has to weigh on his mind. I think had he weighed in earlier I feel it would have been a more significant event.

My comment on the issue of polls……….Hang with me on my digression – I am going to attempt to make a comparison b/w Porn (both traditional & internet forms) and folks that were polled and said they would vote for Obama. There are a lot of folks that do not want to admit to engaging in the billion dollar business of adult entertainment – Just as there are a lot of folks that will deny racism. I would take a guess that the polls might be a bit closer than what is reported.

As a side note, had McCain not made the couple of stupid comments about the economy and the lame excuse about the “fundamentals of the economy” being in reference to the American Worker – He should have just explained what he meant. Also add Tina Fey in the picture - Had she not been talked into making Palin look like a complete idiot. Combine that with the lack of Ayers, Wright, and Rezko “accountability”; plus the lack of vetting of the community organizer resume……….If the previous issues would have went the other way this race would have been “McCain’s sure thing”!

As far as my MO prediction - MO goes to McCain.

Quintilian B. Nasty said...

Palin didn't need Tina Fey to look like a fool. Many conservatives--Peggy Noonan, Colin Powell, Christopher Buckley, Kathleen Parker--all say that the pick of Palin hurt McCain's candidacy.

If Obama-Biden win, it'll be interesting to see if Palin comes back as the face of the new GOP. Or will centrist Republicans break from the GOP? I think the latter is a long shot.

Anonymous said...

Yes several conservatives have made their dissent agaist the Palin pick up - But there was no "swaying those folks" - This group already knew.

There are many Americans that get their new from the SNL Weekend Update :). "This" is the target group that could be swayed to not voting for the McCain-Palin Ticket.

Anonymous said...

"The only safe prediction about Missouri is that on election night there will be an 'emergency' court order to keep polls open late in the city of St. Louis (if I wanted to be really ugly, I'd say downtown and/or North St. Louis"

The law clearly states that if you are in line when the polls close at 7 pm, you have a right to vote. As a voter protection volunteer next Tuesday, I will gladly file a motion for citizens to have their right to vote.

Obama will win Missouri.